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<Public> Anique says, "If something is done for ooc vendettas and found out then wouldn't it be a simple matter of punishing that person who does it?" | <Public> Anique says, "If something is done for ooc vendettas and found out then wouldn't it be a simple matter of punishing that person who does it?" | ||
<Public> Rodney says, "And I agree with Sypher, so the end is near." | <Public> Rodney says, "And I agree with Sypher, so the end is near." | ||
− | + | <Public> Dobson says, "I am having an open forum discussion about future of game! Very happy to see you *smooches*" | |
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "I mean more like, punishment dolled out by admin only.. like for example, if alliance players try to do something that will spark RP and a certain group instantly ducks out or logs off to avoid it" | <Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "I mean more like, punishment dolled out by admin only.. like for example, if alliance players try to do something that will spark RP and a certain group instantly ducks out or logs off to avoid it" | ||
<Public> Covis says, "Would some sort of @911 system help during Allaince boardings etc?" | <Public> Covis says, "Would some sort of @911 system help during Allaince boardings etc?" | ||
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<Public> Daisy says, "I pretty much prefer the Alliance playing their own plots just like every other org does - if an org wants to do an Alliance plot, cool. If staff has multi-org plots, cool." | <Public> Daisy says, "I pretty much prefer the Alliance playing their own plots just like every other org does - if an org wants to do an Alliance plot, cool. If staff has multi-org plots, cool." | ||
<Public> Kenthadus says, "The idea of the alt having a punishment requirement attached to it Covis" | <Public> Kenthadus says, "The idea of the alt having a punishment requirement attached to it Covis" | ||
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<Public> Valentina says, "People take it personally." | <Public> Valentina says, "People take it personally." | ||
<Public> Dobson says, "ANyways! I will take all this under consideration" | <Public> Dobson says, "ANyways! I will take all this under consideration" |
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<Public> Dobson says, "I was going to have a big old open forum too, hmph"
<Public> Dobson says, "Where I talk about plans and ideas and get feedback from folks, and maybe give out a few surprises and etc."
<Public> Daisy says, "More bugs. Bug cookies."
<Public> Covis says, "Forum on plans and ideas.. Im in!"
<Public> Esther says, "I wish there was more of a PC nemesis group on the grid. I miss the days where I was afeared of the Commonwealth"
<Public> Esther says, "Yes, I said afeared."
<Public> Anique says, "And said it well!"
<Public> Dobson says, "The thing with the Commonwealth is...well...I shall have a representative speak on that."
<Public> Daisy says, "I was just suggesting that the Alliance change some ship names to something like the IAV Suck This, Pirate Commonwealth and IAV Bite Me, Frost."
<Public> Dobson says, "We lost the creator and instigator of that organization this year, so some changes had to be made when Frost's player passed away."
<Public> Esther says, "Awww.. Frost :("
<Public> Esther sadfaces.
<Public> Esther says, "He was an EXCELLENT rper.. so very creative."
<Public> Dobson says, "The new ooc leader at this time is Rand, and he supposedly has some plans as well seeing as it was recently made official. Before, he was having to wait to see."
<Public> Dobson says, "But there will be a new threat to the verse to be afraid of that will not be the Pirates, they will be worse no doubt."
<Public> Esther says, "Will they be PC run or NPC?"
<Public> Aubrey says, "Part of what I'm going to discuss today as well. But first, I must shower so I don't kill myself with my own stench as I sit here typing."
<Public> Aubrey says, "(I know the secrets)"
<Public> The invisible McGuire says, "I could go bad. It's be easy to snap and go all psycobathicly homisidle and try and take over the 'verse... just give the word."
<Public> Dobson says, "...."
<Public> Dobson says, "ANyways, open Forum in about 30 minutes."
<Public> Anique says, "Open Forum?"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, ">.>"
<Public> Daisy says, "It's just about plots and stuff."
<Public> Dobson says, "Not only."
<Public> Dobson says, "But alot of stuff. Direction of the gaaaaaaame and ya know what's my favorite spooon."
<Public> Daisy says, "Yes, but I think people maybe were worried that there was trouble."
<Public> Covis says, "Did someone call?"
<Public> Covis grins
<Public> Esther baps Covis
<Public> Rand dipsmooches Esther.
<Public> Rand says, "Okay! Lets talk Pirates."
<Public> Rand says, "First off, let me say that being a member of the PC is both a blessing and a curse. The PC did what it was meant to do, it was to proove that another organization could rise to a position to challenge/defeat/stick it to 'the man' aka The Alliance while having its own culture and it grew into a living and breathing beast of its own. And boy did that sucker roar. But like all beasts, once it defeated and scared all the other beasties, for survival reasons...folks began avoiding IC, that's fine. But then you had people that oocly /detested/ the pirates due to rumors and other ooc things and slowly it developed into the organization folks either appreciated or hated. So when the major players left to live life to the fullest, as they should, the memories of what they did and how awesome/scary/terrifying they were still lingered and every new recruitment group had to deal with the ooc drama of 'oh, so you're a pirate'. - And yes, I am and I'm awesome."
<Public> Rand says, "The game has changed so much to a place where it used to be Pirates and Alliance were two of the most powerful/undefeatable/overwhelming forces on the game. I like to think the innovation of Frost proving how you can make your mark on the game by being creative and awesome started to inspire other crews/groups/organizations to do the same to be completely honest, they are no longer the top dog on this game. Which kinda makes me proud."
PETALINE: won't give up her illegitimate Database!
<Public> Daisy says, "The same thing happened to the Alliance. It's better now."
<Public> Rand says, "So this led to people believing the PC org was dead, it is safe to say it has been in a state of hiatus/pause for a while as we strove to figure out a direction to go with the org that would still allow people to RP freely and interact with other players, while still having that PC swagger that makes them outlaws, the bad guys."
<Public> Esther says, "I have to say that I absolutely ADORE the commonwealth oocly. It game me an IC nemesis and additional depth to my character's story."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "bah, pirates shouldn't be hated OOC in this game in my opinion, I've seen the kind of stuff they've done IC and I had the privelage on a few characters to interact with a lot of them and even got to deal with Frost in game a few times. some of the things they did (like the attack on paquin) caused some of the most dramatic and amazing RP I'd ever seen and thats coming from a history of 16 mush's and 9 MUD's (Yes I know muds are more grind than RP but still)"
<Public> Rand says, "We all really appreciate that. Now, Frost's player's Death emotionally effect ALOT of us, especially those of us who were friends with him off the game as well. It made me personally feel I was not worthy, so not worthy to live into the role he asked me to fill when he was simply just taking a break from the game. At that time I could still call him and say 'hey, how about this' - because in my mind it was still his org/his and Lareina's baby and I never want to screw it up. I did sit on my hands for a while and just shook my head because I personally know, there will NEVER be another Frost and the things that man managed to do/come up with/inspire in others was humbling to say the least. By the same token, I also promised him I would make sure it never died. So I could not stay sitting on my hands."
<Public> Esther says, "Frost was indeed amazing."
<Public> The invisible McGuire still gets his Rum from the Commonwealth. Gold Lable.
<Public> Rand thanks you for your business ;)
<Public> Esther says, "I still want to get into bar brawls with the PC"
<Public> Esther says, "So satisfying."
<Public> Rand says, "Okay, now I said all of that to say...Hi! I'm Rand! I oocly run the Pirates and over the next couple of months, a new chapter will being with the Pirates that involve more bars, smuggling, and thefts than grand full out assaults in warships."
<Public> Rand says, "Not to say we won't attack any planets because they took my woman and spit on my shoe...but..."
<Public> Covis swoons
<Public> The invisible McGuire says, "Same thing if you take you shoe and spit on ... I'll shut up."
<Public> Rand says, "..."
<Public> Rand Facepalms
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "=P planetary attacks are fun for RP, but really, use sparingly is how to do it best. so yay. n.n"
<Public> Jing-Wei blinks
<Public> Rand says, "Anyways!"
<Public> Daisy says, "Where should we spit again?"
<Public> Arraner says, "into the wind?"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "aim for the eye. >.>"
<Public> Rand says, "What I'm really trying to say is we are here. Talk to us. If you want to plan scenes/have ideas/want to find out what's its like to be left to rolled in sand and then left hanging from your eyelids from flag pole wearing nothing but paint in the alliance flag colors hanging over a pit of rum..."
<Public> Rand says, "We do not bite, and contrary to popular belief we are a non-consent org however! We do not actively go out to try to kill people."
<Public> Rand says, "(I however will bite if you ask me)"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "... Damn, this is the public channel so I cant say that one. XD"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "also just realized what I did there and I apologise for cussing on a public channel. shouldn't type distracted"
<Public> Rand says, "Okay! Any questions?"
<Public> Covis says, "Rand, you said you are running the pirates OOC'ly. Who is running them IC'ly and what kind of playerbase do they have currently? Ive heard the PC's and Alliance could both use more players."
<Public> Rand says, "I am running them ICly as well."
<Public> Rand says, "We have about...Maybe...5-6 players."
<Public> Rand says, "I really encourage people to consider the Alliance group first, but Dobson will speak more on what the game needs."
<Public> Dobson says, "We need...bad guys who aren't afraid to be bad and we need people who honestly reflect the verse. You had people who supported the alliance, but very few players who will make those characters. You have people who break the law, but oocly aren't concerned about other players who are meant to keep the law actually inforcing things. We have so many things we want to do, wars, conflicts, squabbles but its challenging to arrange due to how out of balance our character base is (NOT A BAD THING). We wants PCs to be able to go against PCs and not get OOCly offended for not winning or OOCly cocky for winning. We really don't want to force you all to always have to play conflict with only NPCs."
<Public> Esther says, "I so agree."
<Public> Dobson says, "I ran the Reaverite plot, and I loved seeing how it made people think and fight and care and cry."
<Public> Esther says, "Yes. We need more events like the reaverites to bring crews together and such"
<Public> Anique says, "I'm a new player so if this is a silly question, tell me, but how does one join the Alliance group?"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "conflict can be fun, especially when it's done right. The reaverite plot was amusing, even if I did wind up blowing myself up what was it.. twice? throughout the plot. XD"
<Public> Dobson says, "Well, here is where I need feedback from others, any people out there who are Alliance playing?"
<Public> Dobson says, "And not to mention getting one of your friends shot :p"
<Public> Red Queen Connie needs crew, AniqUe. Ask me (when its not 2am my time ;) )
<Public> Anique salutes Connie. "Will do!"
<Public> Dobson says, "I will say the new plots I have in mind, will feature this independents vs alliance feelings HEAVILY."
<Public> Red Queen Connie <---
<Public> Dobson says, "Because ya know, that's what the darn game is about and the Alliance actually won the first war. So."
<Public> Daisy says, "I don't think the Alliance PCs intend to enforce anything. For the most part, Alliance PCs are going to be quick response special forces in one unit."
<Public> Dobson says, "But we /need/ people to know they can get caught. Something important to keep in mind."
<Public> Dobson says, "But you are correct, probably will not have PCs doing this. ITs alot to work out."
<Public> Daisy says, "There was a lot of outcry against that. Alliance police should be NPCs so that people can use them in their own plots if they want to."
<Public> Dobson says, "Hmm."
<Public> Dobson says, "And that is where I think is a tiny bit of a problem, not a big one, but something that concerned me."
<Public> Helena says, "Two sides of it, people should know they can get caught, and the catches should realize some people have the skill to escape ;)"
<Public> Dobson says, "Bingo."
<Public> Red Queen Connie nods. Good stories need conflict. Hsppy to be a source of it if needed, and happy to work with folks ooc to help tell stories. (New here, but MUSH/RP vet)
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "... gods, I have to say: if we have another U-war situation it'll be amusing for characters like mine and the people I work with."
<Public> Helena says, "People tend to play infallible and untouchable"
<Public> Daisy says, "All I've ever heard is "I don't want Alliance people coming to my ship to search it, because then they'll call in overwhelming odds and we'll all die.""
<Public> Daisy says, "Which is canonical but not fun."
<Public> Esther says, "I find as my alliance char, I get almost no rp because i am shunned. I got bored as a result."
<Public> Red Queen Connie nods to Daisy. And not the kind of thing I want to do,
<Public> Dobson says, "There has to be a balance, or else the game goes no where :( It becomes as Helena says. Now, some people enjoy that. Which is fine. But is it really fair? Exactly Esther, some of what I think Rand was touching on earlier."
<Public> Helena says, "My alt is a con artist, but can be hard to play cons cause despite rolls people often assume their character would see through a con ;P"
<Public> Daisy says, "And so how the Alliance PCs have been reorganized will keep that from happening."
<Public> Valentina says, "I got a fair amount of not shunned rp."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, ">.> dang. I've only had an alliance person check the ship I was on ince and it was just 1 dude.. I mean, it was kinda annoying but it was decent rp still."
<Public> Dobson says, "And you know how I love you Valentina."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "*once"
<Public> Daisy says, "So, we'll play our own plots as our own org, like othe orgs do."
<Public> Dobson rubs temples.
<Public> Helena says, "We had an alliance exam of our ship here, it was fun, cause I got to pull Companion on em :)"
<Public> Rand says, "I got my bar inspected once. Now THAT was hilarious."
<Public> Arraner says, "I wouldn't mind playing a good Alliance villain. Maybe some young punk security guard. I've found in the past that being the bad guy is a lot of fun. :)"
<Public> Daisy says, "I just don't think it'll work both ways, Dobbie. Either it's canonical or it's fun for the other players."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "XD lucky. all I got was to watch my boss pull the nobility card and I still got dinged for not having my hover bike registered. =P no big hassle really, it was even fun to see people deal on both sides."
<Public> Helena says, "I find the scenes where it goes good there is OOC communication involved. People will be protective/defensive of their ship/character and need to know people are not just OOC power tripping."
<Public> Dobson says, "I want to be able to tell Alliance PCs. This week, you've got orders to go and do random searches on these three planets for contraband, and people be open to it. But I doubt folks want to be that mature or fair :/ So I'm sorta stuck as a player. Because oocly I love everybody, but I know folks don't oocly always love each other."
<Public> Daisy says, "Exactly. But that's why there the Alliance PCs are in one unit, mostly. That way we can't call down a battallion of Marines to kick people's asses. We just have the PCs."
<Public> Helena says, "Maybe put a call out at the time for ships willing to be part of alliance RP? Extra XP reward? ;)"
<Public> Dobson says, "*stuck as a staffer"
<Public> Covis says, "Why can't you do that Dobson? To me thats creating rp. Its what Serenity is all about isnt it, the Alliance boarding ships and investigating planets."
<Public> Kenthadus says, "Folks just don't like the Alliance getting involved."
<Public> Dobson says, "Yeeeah Covis, but sadly that doesn't go over so well on this game."
<Public> Red Queen Connie nodnods to H. FWIW? Connie is not an IC or OOC power trip. I want to tell her story & help other folk tell theirs.
<Public> Dobson says, "Because, people want the firefly fantasy. Which is just fine."
<Public> Covis says, "Have Alliance players abused situations?"
<Public> Valentina usually asked if the people I did license rp with were ok with it. If not, I just reminded them to get licensed.
<Public> Anique says, "Sounds fun to me, the risk of being boarded."
<Public> Helena high fives Connie
<Public> Kenthadus says, "THere have been a few that have Covis. And those few bad apples have tainted the batch for many players"
<Public> Covis nodnods
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "V: yes, exactly,"
<Public> Dobson says, "Sooo much OOC drama related to it Covis, and that's why I want to try to start a new chapter here on this game."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "also, I think the alliance can still stick to cannon and still be fun to deal with provided that not all encounters are 'do it right or lose your character' like I've seen people do on other games. contraband searches, surprise inspections, even arrests can be great for RP, even adding some danger to it would probably make things great. as for people refusing to interact with alliance? there should sort of be rules (in my opinion and I know I'm gonna get glared at for this) to punish players for doing that too often. once in a while I can see if theres a reason for it but ducking them OOC every time is just bad form."
<Public> Kenthadus would like to see it go back to the original setting that Brenn had been hired on for... "But that was a long time ago and was going to be a small ship and thats it sounds like thats what they're going back towards now?
<Public> Valentina says, "My concern, is if there's "punishment", it could be abused by folk who have OOC vendettas."
<Public> Dobson says, "Eee, I'm so excited! We're all talking!"
<Public> Rodney says, "What started this old recycled debate, this time?"
<Public> Dobson says, "Rodney..."
<Public> Helena says, "Also 'going overboard' on their part can also lead to further RP. Had a character that was unreasonably treated and she 'took it to their superiors'"
<Public> Dobson says, "Not a debate."
<Public> Anique says, "If something is done for ooc vendettas and found out then wouldn't it be a simple matter of punishing that person who does it?"
<Public> Rodney says, "And I agree with Sypher, so the end is near."
<Public> Dobson says, "I am having an open forum discussion about future of game! Very happy to see you *smooches*"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "I mean more like, punishment dolled out by admin only.. like for example, if alliance players try to do something that will spark RP and a certain group instantly ducks out or logs off to avoid it"
<Public> Covis says, "Would some sort of @911 system help during Allaince boardings etc?"
<Public> Dobson says, "We have one of those."
<Public> Helena was thinking that, You can call in a staffer to GM/Judge scenes
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "o.o wait.. rodney just agreed with me? OK I have to break out my 'the end is near' bodyboards and turn into a doomsayer now."
<Public> Kenthadus says, "+allhelp or something? I forget what the command is..."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Also? The Alliance isn't a big monolithic 'facist' whole, It has factions too. Some are actually decent human beings :D (but not just joking)"
<Public> Valentina says, "That's fine. Many moons ago, there was a "You're in trouble with the alliance. We're assigning X to investigat this." Mails to people, so they can agree or disagree."
<Public> Helena says, "Which is perhaps not a bad idea anyway when there is IC conflict between a couple of groups as opposed to a group against NPCs"
<Public> Dobson says, "I mean, how can we mobilize the Bounty Hunters if we don't get this all figured out."
<Public> Rodney says, "Basically, if PCs have to suffer 'realistic' consequences for their actions RE: dealings with the Alliance, then it isn't plausible, because yeah, losing ones PC blows. If players can find some wiggle room amongst themselves, it can totally be worthwhile and engaging RP."
<Public> Covis says, "What about a policy that if you have an alt, then you must use that alt to promote these scenarios, even risking death?"
<Public> Covis says, "That also keeps your fav primary alt less in danger"
<Public> Valentina says, "I don't get what you mean Covis"
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Exactly, R. No wiggl room, no fun, no story, ICA = ICC, yes, but there's a whole range of ICC not all of which go my way :)"
<Public> Dobson says, "You mean like the Pirates."
<Public> Dobson says, "They have to be non-consent and there's always a chance of them being killed/attacked/arrested if they aren't smart."
<Public> Covis says, "Ive noticed some players have more then 1 char. The second should only be granted if they are willing to be boarded by Alliance or fill an orgs needs for rp"
<Public> Dobson says, "But I wouldn't make it a requirement for folks."
<Public> Dobson noddles and hmms.
<Public> Valentina says, "Nope, Can't say I like that plan Covis. Alts promote RP, and shouldn't have "punishment" attached."
<Public> Covis says, "Its not punishment my take away here is folks are too afraid to risk their alts for realistic rp"
<Public> Rodney kind of sees it like PK. I pick assloads of fights, always looking for player vs player conflict of some sort, but I've found an excuse to not kill other players/be killed, because yeah. Losing a character sucks.
<Alliance> Salin says, "Dozing on couch. Awesome"
<Public> Covis says, "Why no boarding of ships by Alliance PC's?"
<Public> Dobson says, "It would be easier for everyone if people wouldn't take conflict oocly, but on mu*s it is sadly unavoidable."
<Public> Daisy says, "I pretty much prefer the Alliance playing their own plots just like every other org does - if an org wants to do an Alliance plot, cool. If staff has multi-org plots, cool."
<Public> Kenthadus says, "The idea of the alt having a punishment requirement attached to it Covis"
<Public> Valentina says, "People take it personally."
<Public> Dobson says, "ANyways! I will take all this under consideration"
<Public> Kenthadus says, "But the Alliance was originally designed to push RP in the direction the staff wanted. They were tools for staff to guide the playerbase at one time"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "playing untouchable is fun sometimes, I should know, I've survived quite a few things on this char alone that most human beings usually wouldn't without a REALLY good hospital and an amazing quick response team. (like rodney collapsing one of my lungs in a dual or having to have my arm replaced with a cybernetic because I got it blown off in a scene) but there should be a limit. if you do something like run drugs or weapons, kill people or assault innocent characters (PC or NPC) there should be a major response to it (from PC's and NPC's alike) if you slip up."
<Public> Valentina says, "I just want to say I tried to arrest Frost twice, and shot him in teh head twice, and it was fun. And he had fun. And we both agreed what was going on ahead of time."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "The issue has always been on every MUSH that people want their character to be the hero of their own story. To do that and help other people tell theirs requires a litte flexibility. Also, good stories come with setbacks and adversity."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "thats what I want to see the alliance being able to do. work with players if they're going to get in trouble, let them know whats happening before you storm in and work out how things will go instead of having alliance steam-roll you or the player in trouble simply escape without consequence"
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "sorry, hard to be articulate at length on an ipad)"
<Public> Dobson says, "All being taken under consideration. It just really bothers me that we're one game, however I do not want people to every think like the game is just a space where they can run their own own mini-games with people they would prefer. So I want OOC communication, I like open conversations, but in order for us ever to get into a major grid wide plot, not...a multi-org plot, I mean a plot that /effects every darn body/, we have to learn and accept we have to be a community and a family."
<Public> Rodney says, "Pretty much anything short of death/years on a penal colony without escape is good. I had a player get dumped in the desert, without a face and with amenesia once. Was fun setback."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Sypher. talk to me. i will do thst for you, uk login times willing."
<Public> Valentina says, "Rodney, a prison break would be fun."
<Public> Dobson noddles
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "yay! >.> I actually kinda wanted to have something come up with the alliance with my character cause as fun as it is to play an assassin, it gets boring without any danger."
<Public> Daisy says, "I never had anyone who wanted to do that, to play some sort of consequence."
<Public> Red Queen Connie will +bb when on better keyboard...
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "and more awake (did i mention 2am)"
<Public> Rodney says, "Its a fine line witht he alliance. I was working something out with Frost and uh..Calira at one point, many moons ago. The main issue has always been, okay...how do we do something dangerous/big without the Feds just immediately dropping a fleet/army on the problem. Suspension of disbelief/finding wiggle room is the rub. Not that I RP anymore, but y'know."
<Public> Dobson says, "Awww, man, I was cooking something up for you :("
<Public> Valentina says, "Everyone needs to RP! Rodney! Doooooo it!"
<Public> Kenthadus says, "I'd tried to get distance from the Core to be the critical factor... Border and Rim planets just wouldn't warrant a fast response but if you did something stupid Core side it'd be almost immediate response"
<Public> Rodney wants to RP more, Dobs. Just fell out of it, and my org died, and is shunned bc Michio and I are dickholes.
<Public> Valentina says, "Get arrested! Get people protesting your inappropriate incarceration! YAY!"
<Public> Helena says, "Rodney You are awesome!"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, ">.> thats also another thing that kinda irks me.. Alliance being able to steamroll you like that.. I'm all for having moments where they can call in a fleet, but I've seen moments where alliance players are mentioning bringing in battalions or just strait shelling an area from orbit like it's normal to do for the smallest issue. thats WAY too much power for a player to wield at random."
<Public> Dobson says, "Seriously..."
<Public> Valentina says, "Did you ever consider we're BLUFFING! Jeepers."
<Public> Dobson says, "I will take this under consideration as well, I didn't know that happened."
<Public> Red Queen Connie blinks. I can do that? :) :)
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, ">.> when you see 12 drop pods obliterate half of Evesdown Docks for a minor gang war...? no"
<Public> Valentina says, "Alliance PCs have never had that power."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "that was YEARS ago though"
<Public> Rodney wants to have a shootout so bad now. :/
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "I know, right? lol"
<Public> Helena says, "I think we as players also need to learn more communication. Like Val says it could have been a power play IC, or overplayed PC...and need to get the staff involved before things go to the shitpan OOC"
<Public> Kenthadus says, "Yes Val that was wayyyy before you joined the Alliance"
<Public> Valentina says, "We have the power to, like, tell you we can do that."
<Public> Valentina nods. *I* would never like to have power like that.
<Public> Kenthadus says, "There were a few Alliance PC's that never went anywhere without almost 30+ NPC's with them at all times. One guy had a tank in his back yard"
<Public> Daisy says, "That's why we're doing things this way."
<Public> Daisy says, "Until recently there hasn't been any staff to talk to."
<Public> Valentina says, "Ahhh, that would explain how some folk react."
<Public> Dobson says, "That's why I'm here."
<Public> Dobson says, "Because we don't talk enough. And because I like you guys."
<Public> Rodney says, "Kiss on the mouth like? Or just like like?"
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Joking aside? Connie's spent a decade trading on the Rim IC. Has more IC empathy for it than a lot of never-left-the-service types. And has seen enuogh abuse of Alliance power from inside... ok, I'm just one character, but - work with me OOC, and I'll help you tell your stories along with mine."
<Public> Dobson says, "Have you brushed your teeth?"
<Public> Rodney says, "Possibly."
<Public> Daisy says, "With Jim Beam."
<Public> Rodney is more of a Jack kinda guy. Jim Beam is for when I'm broke.
<Public> Kenthadus says, "This talk almost has me wanting to bring Brenn back into the fold..."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Cold coffee here :)"
<Public> Rodney is flying to Ezra, at which point, there could feasibly be mayhem if there was anyne else interested in mayhem.
<Public> Dobson says, "I feel like I have a magic wand."
<Public> Valentina thinks she should avoid mayhem.
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "I would be up for some conflict if I wasn't already gearing up to finish up a plot for someone tonight"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "cause rodney, dude, as much as sy hates you IC, our moments have been fairly amusing. -.o even if you could stomp my ass flat in moments like that."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "again, sorry for cussing."
<Public> Dobson says, "okay, so was this a helpful discussion for everyone?"
<Public> Valentina says, "Well, It was nice to find out what happened in the past that was bad."
<Public> Dobson noddles. Well, its important to learn from history
<Public> Kenthadus says, "Valentina any questions on that just ask Brenn he'd been around for most of that history"
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher thinks we should have open forum like things more often. >.>
<Public> Dobson says, "But you won me over when you tried to arrest a man eating criminal."
<Public> Valentina says, "In a mux long ago there was an index that cops could read that showed how "hot" you were in illegal acts."
<Public> Valentina says, "Folk knew if that number got high enough, the cops were after them."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "just not aways @2am :)"
<Public> Helena says, "I think mostly comes down to communication"
<Public> Dobson says, "Yep."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Always does."
<Public> Dobson says, "okay. So I want to run some things soon, ugh I need to get married so I can be a stay at home person again, anyways!"
<Public> Valentina says, "Since I always try to communicate, that may be why I got some good rp."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Pop quiz, awhat's the S in MUSH stand for?"
<Public> Dobson says, "I also need to be braver of doing what I actually do as a staffer and create plot characters. But that makes me so nervous."
<Public> Dobson says, "Shared."
<Public> Red Queen Connie says, "Exactly, Do it, folks. :D"
<Public> Rodney says, "Why does it make you nervous, Dobson?"
<Public> Dobson says, "Because I hold myself to a stricter level of fairness than I do other people."
<Public> Rodney says, "And yeah, Sypher. We've had fun times, even if our characters hate each other."
<Public> Aubrey says, "Which is weird because Aubrey tolerates both of you."
<Public> Wicked Shephard Sypher says, "=P Like when you collapsed my lung. I couldn't stop laughing through some of that scene."
<Public> Rodney says, "After knowing Aubrey since like day 1 for Rodney, he still has no idea how he feels like that little dude...ette?"
<Public> Rodney says, "feels about* not like."
<Public> Helena grins at Aubrey
<Public> Rodney doesn't remember doing that. Was it the duel?
<Public> Valentina says, "Anyone want Alliance rlated RP?"
<Public> Dobson says, "Okay. *breathes*. I think we had a productive night, this open forum thing. If someone logged it, please let me know and if you post it (editted) I will give you XP. I have some more ideas and ideas and I will need ALOT of help from you all, we need to remember we are a community."
<Public> Kenthadus says, "We are?"
<Public> Dobson says, "We also have quite a bit of new blood, so we need to make sure we welcome them with open arms and make a good fresh impression. I will be asking for assistance with editing posts, news files, updating descs...alot of things over time so keep pan eye out."